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Moes/Linptech Presence Sensor ZSS-LP-HP02 Review

AliExpress Reviews. Moes Presence Sensor ZSS-LP-HP02 with alternative white label as Linptech ES1ZZ(TY). Accurate and reliable, but pricy and with drawbacks.

New presence sensors models keep popping up on my AliExpress feed, so I’ve been getting a lot of them lately. It’s a hit and miss with these device from the Tuya ecosystem, so due diligence is required in testing and benchmarking their performance.

Most of them are trash and the best way to describe them is as unfinished products. Some perform as advertised though, lately the MTG075-ZB-RL with a built-in relay, which turned out great.

Moes ZSS-LP-HP02/Linptech ES1ZZ Presence Sensor Featured Image

In this article, I’m testing another mmWave radar presence sensor sold and developed by Moes, model ZSS-LP-HP02, which costs a bit more than the usual Tuya presence sensors. It’s available on AliExpress and Amazon, and can also be found white labelled as Linptech ES1ZZ, which is the same identical device.

Technical Specification

  • Model:
    • Moes ZSS-LP-HP02
    • Linptech ES1ZZ(TY)
  • Power Supply: 5V=1A
  • Power Consumption: 0.5W
  • Communication Protocol: ZigBee 3.0
  • Radar Frequency: 24GHz-24.25GHz
  • Light Sensitivity Range: 0-10000lux
  • Operating Temperature: -10°C~40°C
  • Operating Humidity: 0~95%RH

Teardown

The Moes ZSS-LP-HP02 Presence Sensor ships in nice branded box containing the device itself, a USB-A to USB-C cable and an installation magnet. There is no adapter in the box, you will have to supply it yourself or power the device with something else at 5V1A.

The packaging is better than generic Tuya presence sensors coming from AliExpress, feels a bit more premium, although still not up to western standards.

Moes ZSS-LP-HP02/Linptech ES1ZZ Presence Sensor Package Contents

The device feels much more compact and heavier than I expected, gives off a premium and high quality vibe. There is a small hole in the middle used by the indicator LED, which blinks when presence is detected. This small gray area doubles as the pairing/reset button of the Moes ZSS-LP-HP02.

The USB-C port is placed on the bottom of the device.

Moes ZSS-LP-HP02/Linptech ES1ZZ Presence Sensor Top Case View

On the backside of the case, there is round rubber ring for better grip in some installation positions without a magnet. The magnet is actually placed inside the sensor, and the mounting bracket is just metal that attaches to it.

It’s actually a clever design, since you can pivot and rotate the bracket anyway you like and cover all angles. One side of the metal piece has a sticker attached to it’s side, which goes on your wall, bookcase, fridge, whatever. The magnet is strong enough to not allow the device to be rotated by the USB-C cable.

Moes ZSS-LP-HP02/Linptech ES1ZZ Presence Sensor Bottom Case and Magnet View

Opening up the device was easy, once I found out it was held together by 4 screws hidden under the rubber ring. The first thing I encountered on the top/face side of the PCB is the actual presence sensor, which is model Hi-Link LD2410 [Datasheet].

This sensor is well known among DIY home automation enthusiasts, being supported in ESPHome and works in Home Assistant with an ESP board. It’s a highly sensitive 24GHz mMWave Radar Module for continuous presence detection, meant for indoor use.

Moes ZSS-LP-HP02/Linptech ES1ZZ Presence Sensor PCB LD2410

The connectivity module used in the Moes ZSS-LP-HP02 Presence Sensor is the Tuya ZS3L [Datasheet] embedded with a 32-bit low-power Arm Cortex-M33 core, 768-KB flash memory and 64-KB RAM, which is based on a latest gen EFR32MG21 [Datasheet] SoC by Silicon Labs.

This is a well known communication chip, used in a bunch of devices I’ve tested like the Tuya Zigbee IR Blaster ZS06, Tuya Zigbee Single Clamp Energy Meter PJ-MGW1203 and the popular Tuya Zigbee ZY-M100 Presence Sensor. Most recently though, I found it powering the Tuya Zigbee Presense Sensor with a Relay MTG075-ZB-RL, which makes the module a great pick for devices constantly transmitting their payload, like presence sensors.

Moes ZSS-LP-HP02/Linptech ES1ZZ Presence Sensor Connectivity Module

Home Assistant Integration

The Moes ZSS-LP-HP02/Linptech ES1ZZ Presence Sensor is supported only in Zigbee2MQTT for now. There is a device support request open for ZHA, which you can follow for any developments here. To pair the device, press and hold the button on the front for ~5 seconds until the blue LED starts blinking.

Zigbee2MQTT

Moes ZSS-LP-HP02/Linptech ES1ZZ Presence Sensor Zigbee2MQTT

The Moes ZSS-LP-HP02 Presence Sensor is identified as a Router in Zigbee2MQTT 1.33.1+ by manufacturer Linptech and model ES1ZZ(TY). Since the device is the same as the Linptech version, Zigbee manufacturer _TZ3218_awarhusb is also the same and the sensor uses the Linptech external converter. It exposes the following entities in Home Assistant through Zigbee2MQTT:

Moes ZSS-LP-HP02/Linptech ES1ZZ Presence Sensor Zigbee2MQTT Entities

The configuration parameters are pretty self-explanatory, although like most presence sensors they require tinkering and constant adjustment to properly setup the device in your environment, I explain more in the Testing section bellow.

Testing

Once the device was up and running in Zigbee2MQTT, I deployed it in my office to test and get a general idea of how it operates. First off, presence detection is instant and goes from Clear to Occupied immediately.

The motion detection distance parameter has a minimum setting of 75cm and a maximum of 600cm (6 meters). mmWave presence sensors lose sensitivity the farther you are from the device, but this thing was able to detect me walking up to it immediately from 6-6.5 meters. After tinkering a bit, I found about 4 meters is the optimal distance setting for my space.

The motion detection sensitivity parameter goes from 0-5, with 5 being way way to sensitive. The LD2410 is very responsive in this device, so setting it to 5 creates so many false positives it’s not even funny. I found 3 to be the sweet spot for my office, although if you have a large space you might want 4.

The static detection sensitivity also ranges from 0-5 and again, I found 5 is way to sensitive. I am almost certain I got a false positive from the air direction swinging thing on my office AC, so lowering this to 3 was a must.

The fading time parameter just adds a cooldown which the device respects until it checks for presence again from the state change of Occupied to Clear. You can set this however you like, it really depends on what you are trying to achieve.

The target distance and illuminance entities jump up and down like crazy and are unreliable. I’ve yet to find a presence sensor in which these values are accurate. Further, the device retains the last state of the target distance entity even when presence is clear, so this is unusable in automations.

Once I was done, the device operated perfectly fine with no false or negative triggers. It’s super fast and accurate and almost never makes a mistake, although it will require tinkering to optimize to your space.

The important thing to note here is that the values you set may seem off when adjusting, but required to get it to optimal settings. For example, you may find that setting sensitivity at 2 seems low but the sensor works best at this value. The LD2410 operates at 24GHz and is very responsive, so test thoroughly and adapt to your space, ignoring the actual value of the parameters in terms of it’s scale range.

Zigbee Network Spam

Unfortunately, this Moes ZSS-LP-HP02 Presence Sensor spams your Zigbee network HARD. There is no way to reduce payload traffic, per entity or fully, since Tuya uses non-standard Zigbee implementation and data is pushed and not polled. Here’s a screenshot from my logs:

Moes ZSS-LP-HP02/Linptech ES1ZZ Presence Sensor Zigbee2MQTT Payload Flood

You can debounce the messages coming through and not publish them all to your MQTT broker, but the actual Zigbee network and coordinator will still receive the payload. The only “workaround” I can think of is to use a better coordinator (EFR32MG21) and have many routers deployed in your network, so this device doesn’t crash it.

This can be a problem if you deploy a bunch of these sensors and have a weak network and coordinator, although I honestly noticed no difference in the performance of my mesh once I moved the device in my home. I use the Sonoff ZBDongle-E as my main coordinator and have several other presence sensors deployed. I also use two dedicated signal extenders, to improve quality of Zigbee communication.

Summary

The Moes ZSS-LP-HP02 is definitely a presence sensor to consider, although I would advise you take a look at other alternatives first before making a buying decision. Here is a list of other presence sensors I’ve tested:

Presence detection is instant, so it does eliminate the need of combining the device with a PIR sensor in automations. The device is built very good, feels compact and heavy. The magnetic swivel gives you flexibility in installation and mounting positions. It uses USB-C at 5V1A, so you can use a longer cable you have lying around for power.

Setting up the device in Zigbee2MQTT was a fairly standard trial-and-error process for these types of sensors, although It surprised me in terms of how lower I needed to take the sensitivity levels of the device. It will cause false positives if left higher than 4, both for the motion and static parameters.

The sensor does flood your Zigbee network like I’ve mentioned, although I do not think this will present a problem with a capable coordinator and a solidified mesh network. Another thing that bugs me is inability to turn off the indicator LED, which blinks once every couple of seconds. I might have to take it to town with a pair of wire cutters.

Pricing and Availability

The Moes ZSS-LP-HP02 Presence Sensor is available on AliExpress and Amazon, here’s some links and my original seller (1st link). If you purchase through these affiliate links, you are indirectly supporting smarthomescene.com and it’s cause, at no additional cost to you.

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15 thoughts on “Moes/Linptech Presence Sensor ZSS-LP-HP02 Review”

  1. Thanks for yet another very detailed review.
    While this device looks great, I’m a bit worried about the spamming on the network, especially when using more than one. In the reviews of the ZY-M100 and the MTG075-ZB-RL, there is no mention of this; are these the better choices here?

    • Hello,
      Thanks for the feedback.
      Regarding the MTG075-ZB-RL: The device does send a payload from the Illuminance sensor more frequently when the value changes, however once it stabilizes it does not flood at all.
      Leaving it in a well lit area (or a dark room), it will attain one single value for a while a not publish a payload. I don’t consider this flooding, since it’s nothing like the Moes version of this review.

      Regarding the ZY-M100: At the time of my review, there was only one model of the ZY-M100 (the 5.8GHz version). It performed perfectly and did NOT SPAM at all.
      However since than, the original listing has been changed and the device ships with a different firmware version which many users report DOES spam (both the 5.8GHz and 24GHz versions).
      I have no way of telling which one is which, judging by the listings in AliExpress themselves.

      All things considered, if you manage to build a really solid mesh network like I mentioned, with a good coordinator (ZBDongle-E, SkyConnect or UZG-01) I believe you will have no problems.
      Please don’t take my finding as fact though, I am just relaying my experiences.

      Cheers, hope this is helpful.

  2. So basicually, it sucks. After paragraph after network spam, I do not need to read further. Piece of garbage. Thanks for review. Would like to see Sonoff 🙂

  3. MTG075-ZB-RL with a built-in relay is the best of all the mmwave sensors I have tested (over 10) and I find it much more reliable and accurate and customizable than any other. I love it so much that I have since removed every other human presence mmwave sensor and the only 1 I use is MTG075-ZB-RL with a built-in relay. I purchased 7 of those for each room which was like 25 Euro each. Using the relay also turns on/off instant. Much faster than using automation with home assistant. 🙂 Keep that in mind!

    I was never able to make this Moes ZSS-LP-HP02 Presence Sensor work reliable. It gets triggered by air moving when I open a room door or window. IT is so sensitive even at the minimum setting 1. I will avoid it. My recommendations go for MTG075-ZB-RL.

    I think I am done with looking for mmwave sensors as MTG075-ZB-RL is in every room I have now. I have drywall and I hide it on top of it, so it is not visible at all. I connect it to the main wires that go on top of the drywall so basically there is nothing ot see. No wires, no sensor, no nothing… empty room with reliable human presence detection 🙂

  4. I have disabled the Illuminance sensor in the MQTT as in my case the sensor is between the drywall and the Brik wall. It is always 0, so I have no use for it. Does disabling the Illuminance stops the sensor sending information for it aka spamming?

    • Hey Alex,

      No, you are just disabling the passing of messages from Zigbee to your MQTT broker.
      You are saving your HA database a little bit, but your mesh network is still flooded and you cannot control this at the moment.

      If you have a good coordinator, I don’t think it will be an issue though.

  5. Hey SHS – thanks for another great review. I’m curious if you’ve come across any presence sensors that aren’t tagged only for “indoor use”? I’m hoping to have a better trigger for motion activity to the end of my short driveway, without triggering when people pass on the sidewalk. I love how the FP2 lets you define specific boundaries and ideally would do the same within the confines of my property line.

    This might sound neurotic, but my area has a decent amount of crime and I want to deter whatever I can without false-flagging every friendly pedestrian that goes by.

    • Hello Travis,

      Actually no, I haven’t encounter any that are advertised for outdoor use. However, I do believe that if you manage to hide the sensor from the elements (rain, sun) you will have no problem using it outdoors.
      Especially the Aqara FP2, since it’s body is very uniform and shielded good.

      Regarding your crime problem, I would highly suggest you take a look at Alarmo: https://smarthomescene.com/guides/alarmo-make-your-own-alarm-system-in-home-assistant/

      Essentially, all you sensors (presence, door and window, motion) can be used as triggers in your DIY alarm system. BUT, these would only be active when you actually arm the alarm, for which you can set very elaborate conditions in Home Assistant.
      It will require a bit of work, but I think it’s the best way to use different hardware and create a pretty good alarm system.
      You can also add a siren to act as an action when the alarm is triggered. For example, this one: https://smarthomescene.com/reviews/zigbee-solar-powered-siren-neo-nas-ab06b2-review/

      Let me know what you think.

      • Ohhhh Alarmo looks fun! I’m guessing in my previous example I’d have an alarm zone of “driveway”, and if human motion is detected on the driveway (and I can somehow determine it’s not myself or my girlfriend arriving via location sensors or us departing via a front door sensor) then a “triggered” alarm for that zone might result in flashing some bright lights on the driveway and sending me a notification? Because that’s the end goal 😅

  6. I’m using three of these on hubitat with no issues. I’m not getting any massive log dumps. pretty much only when the status changes, or i ask for an update. is it possible that the device drivers are suppressing this? i haven’t noticed any issues with my zigbee network either. For $15 each… my wife doesn’t get mad at me anymore when a light turns off because she didn’t move enough… 🙂

    • It’s a design flaw. It’s not possible for drivers to suppress the network flood, not at this firmware.
      ITs still spamming your network, although Hubitat is grouping several messages into one and only publishing one per set interval. The same as MQTT in Home Assistant.
      The Zigbee network is still overloaded, you are just not seeing it. Whether or not it will manifest and create issues depends on the quality of your coordinator, other devices on your network and how many of these you have.
      You might never experience lags/delays, so it’s not a given that this device is bad.
      In presence detection capabilities, it’s one of the best for sure.

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