Short Intro
Those who follow SmartHomeScene’s reviews channel, already know we’ve tested a bunch of different mmWave radar presence sensors and wrote detailed reviews for each one. Even after all this work, it’s hard to give an answer to the question of which mmWave radar presence sensor is the best? This might appear as being a simple question – but it’s hardly a simple answer.
You, as a user, might prefer one feature over another. You may prefer open source Wi-Fi devices, you may prefer Zigbee devices working with ZHA/Zigbee2MQTT or maybe you want to create a DIY presence sensor to integrate with Home Assistant. There is no one size fits all when it comes to mmWave radar presence sensors.
This article provides a comprehensive overview of the Best Presence Sensors for Home Automation, all tested in Home Assistant. It will be consistently updated to include new releases and latest models.
■ Winner ■ Second Pick ■ Third Pick
Best Presence Sensor Overall
WINNER: Aqara FP2
- Model: Aqara FP2 RTCZCGQ12LM
- Connectivity: Wi-Fi 2.4GHz / Bluetooth 4.2
- Power Supply: 5V1A
- Sensor: IWR6843 60GHz
- Detection Angle: 120°
- Detection Distance: 6-8m
- Availability: Amazon | AliExpress
With the release of the first generation FP1 Presence Sensor, Aqara was so far ahead in the game that no other manufacturer managed to follow for quite some time. Detection zones were and still are, a distant thought for most smart home brands.
When the Aqara FP2 hit the market, it solved any drawbacks the FP1 had (e.g. slow initial detection) and brought some new features to the table (real-time multi-person detection). Through continuous firmware updates, they managed to solve any user-discovered bugs and turn the FP2 into the best and most feature rich presence sensor available today.
The only real drawback of the Aqara FP2 is that you need to use their app to configure any of the advanced features it offers (zones, detection modes, etc.). Once you are done with the app, you can delete it and use the device completely locally in Home Assistant.
I highly suggest you read my deep dive review of the Aqara FP2.
Best Presence Sensor For Home Assistant
WINNER: Apollo MSR-2
- Model: Apollo MSR-2
- Connectivity: Wi-Fi/Bluetooth
- Power Supply: 5V1A
- Sensor: Hi-Link LD2410b 24GHz
- Detection Angle: 60°
- Detection Distance: 6m
- Price: Apollo Webstore
The Apollo Automation MSR-2 is the smallest presence sensor ever made. Measuring at just 40x24x15mm, it’s almost unbelievable how they managed to make it so feature-rich. Like it’s predecessor the MSR-1, the MSR-2 can measure presence, temperature, humidity, air pressure, UV index, illuminance and optionally CO2. To top it all, the MSR-2 is 30% smaller than the MSR-1.
The Apollo MSR-2 is available with some optional addons for improving the installation flexibility. This includes an outlet mount, for installing the device directly on a wall outlet as well as an articulating stand, which allows the device to rotate and face the direction you need it too. Another welcomed addition is a special USB-C adapter for making the port face backwards, so you can hide all cables from sight.
At the moment, this is the best presence sensor for Home Assistant, which operates with open-source ESPHome firmware.
SECOND PICK (TIE): Apollo MSR-1 and Everything Presence Lite
- Model: Apollo MSR-1
- Connectivity: Wi-Fi/Bluetooth
- Power Supply: 5V1A
- Sensor: Hi-Link LD2410b 24GHz
- Detection Angle: 60°
- Detection Distance: 6m
- Price: Apollo | OpenCircuit
The Apollo Automation MSR-1 is almost identical to its successor, the MSR-2, but in a larger case. Larger is an overstatement here, since the MSR-1 measures at 40x32x13mm, just 8mm taller than the MSR-2. The optional Sensirion SCD-40 CO2 sensor along with the other sensors used actually makes these devices multi-sensors.
Both of these sensors are extremely flexible and configurable, they both implement a form of detection zones, as well as target distance measurement. Any tweak that you can think of in terms of presence detection fine-tuning can be applied to it’s source code in ESPHome, which makes them the best presence sensors for Home Assistant.
- Model: Everything Presence Lite
- Connectivity: Wi-Fi 2.4GHz / Bluetooth 4.2
- Power Supply: 5V1A
- Sensor: Hi-Link LD2450 24GHz
- Other Compatible Sensors:
- DFRobot SEN0395, HiLink LD2410C, Seeed mmWave Sensors
- Price: Everything Presence Store
The Everything Presence Lite is actually labelled as a development and testing board for presence sensors by it’s creator (Lewis, ESH), which means a couple of sensors are compatible with the main board: DFRobot SEN0395, HiLink LD2410C and various Seeed mmWave Sensors. It ships with the HiLink LD2450 from the store, although you can swap sensors if you want to. Like the Apollo Sensors, it has a dedicated illuminance and UV sensor installed on the mainboard, model BH1750.
THIRD PICK (TIE): Everything Presence One EP1 and Athom PS01
- Model: Everything Presence One EP1
- Connectivity: Wi-Fi 2.4GHz / Bluetooth 4.2
- Power Supply: 5V1A
- Sensor: DFRobot SEN0395 24GHz + PIR
- Detection Angle: 100°
- Detection Distance: 9m
- Price: Everything Presence Store
The Everything Presence One EP1 was Lewis’s first presence sensor release, which combined a Panasonic PIR Motion Sensor with a DFRobot presence sensor to create reliable human presence detection. The device uses an ESP32 board flashed with custom ESPHome firmware.
The PIR sensor is instant in detecting motion, while the DFRobot sensor is used for continuous and static human presence detection. Both are combined in a single occupancy entity, which needs to be cleared for Occupancy to inherit a Clear state.
Even though the EP1 is a top notch static presence sensor, it’s ranked third because it’s pricier than the top picks. Further, as it turned out, PIR motion sensors are no longer needed for fast motion detection – mmWave radar sensors are just as fast.
- Model: Athom PS01
- Connectivity: Wi-Fi
- Power Supply: 5V1A
- Sensor: S3KM111L 24GHz
- Detection Angle: 60°
- Detection Distance: 6m
- Price: Amazon | AliExpress
The Athom PS01 is a Chinese-made presence sensor based on the LD2410C 24GHz radar module by Hi-Link. This devices also relies on a PIR sensor for it’s fast initial detection and comes pre-flashed with ESPHome firmware.
Just like the Everything Presence One, the motion and presence sensors combine their states to create the occupancy entity in Home Assistant, which is cleared only when both of them are cleared of motion/presence.
The Athom PS01 is ranked third in this category because it relies on the ESP8285 board, which is significantly weaker than ESP32 boards used in it’s main competitors above. This limits the capability of the device in terms of adding reliable detection zones, multi-target definition and target distance measurement.
Best Zigbee Presence Sensor
WINNER: Tuya MTG075-ZB-RL
- Model: Tuya MTG075-ZB-RL
- Connectivity: Zigbee 3.0
- Power Supply: 85-240VAC
- Sensor: S3KM111L 24GHz
- Detection Angle: 110°
- Detection Distance: 10m
- Price: AliExpress | AliExpress
The Tuya Zigbee Presence Sensor MTG075-ZB-RL with a built in relay was part of a recent wave of new mmWave radar presence sensor popping up on AliExpress. I’ve been testing every single device ever since and the MTG075-ZB-RL is the only one that is solid and reliable enough to make this list.
This is the most configurable Zigbee presence sensor to date, with two separate sets of parameters available for tweaking the device: one for the initial presence detection and the other for the continuous (static) presence detection. This allows for a more versatile usage of the device and more flexibility for eliminating false triggers.
Once properly tuned, the MTG075 becomes one of the most reliable Zigbee presence sensors that you can add to Home Assistant. Please note, the parameters in Zigbee2MQT can be overwhelming and confusing, so take it one step at a time.
SECOND PICK: Aqara FP1
- Model: Aqara FP1
- Connectivity: Zigbee 3.0
- Power Supply: 5V1A
- Sensor: XENSIV™ BGT60TR13C 60GHz
- Detection Angle: 120°
- Detection Distance: 6m
- Price: AliExpress | AliExpress
Even though it shipped somewhat buggy and incomplete initially, the Aqara FP1 was the first presence sensor that mainstreamed using mmWave radar sensors instead of traditional PIR sensors in Home Automation.
Eventually, any bugs it had were ironed out with firmware updates and the FP1 became a very versatile and reliable presence sensor. Ever since my initial Aqara FP1 review, I’ve shared articles for setting up detection zones in Zigbee2MQTT and other tips, tricks and automation examples for getting the most out of the Aqara FP1.
Using the presence_event hack, the Aqara FP1 becomes one of the best Zigbee mmWave radar presence sensor on the market with no real drawbacks. It gets the second place in this category simply because it’s double the price of almost all other Zigbee presence sensors.
Best DIY Presence Sensor
WINNER: Hi-Link LD2410 with an ESP32 Board
- Model: LD2410B/C
- Connectivity: ESP32 Wi-Fi / Bluetooth 4.2
- Power Supply: 5V1A
- Sensor: LD2410b 24GHz, LD2410C 24GHz
- Detection Angle: 60°
- Detection Distance: 6m
- Price: Amazon | AliExpress
If you prefer the DIY (Do-it-yourself) path, than Hi-Link’s mmWave sensor line-up is the best there is when you consider price as the main factor. I wrote an article recently about integrating the Hi-Link LD2410B and LD2410C presence sensors in Home Assistant with an ESP32 board and shared the code to copy-paste in your ESPHome config.
Alternatively, you could also use the LD2420 or LD2450, although there is no official ESPHome support for the LD2450 at the moment. The LD2410B/C is the easiest to work with and has excellent community support, which makes it the first pick.
Best Battery Presence Sensor
WINNER: Tuya ZG-204ZM
- Model: Tuya ZG-204ZM
- Connectivity: Zigbee 3.0
- Power Supply: 3xAAA Batteries
- Sensor: HLK-LD2410S 24GHz
- Detection Angle: 60°
- Detection Distance: 9m
- Price: AliExpress | AliExpress
Battery-powered presence sensors are slowly becoming a possibility, even though mmWave radar is known to be very battery hungry. However, with some clever operation logic and a combination with a PIR sensor, which acts as a wake-up mechanism, the Tuya ZG-204ZM turns into a very capable and reliable presence sensor.
The HLK-LD2410S is a battery-optimized radar sensor, which requires very little power to operate, drawing only 0.1 mA @ 1 Hz reported frequency. It’s also powered by 3.3V instead of 5V, which only bolsters its case as a suitable mmWave radar for battery-powered applications.
Best Presence Sensor on a Budget
WINNER: Sonoff SNZB-06P
- Model: Sonoff SNZB-06P
- Connectivity: Zigbee 3.0
- Power Supply: 5V1A
- Sensor: FR58L4HS-2020L 5.8GHz
- Detection Angle: 100°
- Detection Distance: 7m
- Price: Amazon | AliExpress
If you are looking for a cheap ($15!) ready-made solution with no fancy features, Sonoff’s latest presence sensor labelled SNZB-06P is based on a 5.8GHz radar, but performs perfectly fine in detecting presence in a room.
The sensitivity threshold and detection timeout clusters were just added to Zigbee2MQTT, so the basic functionality can be tweaked to an extent. If you are looking for fine tuning and control, look elsewhere e.g. Tuya MTG075-ZB-RL.
SECOND PICK: Tuya ZY-M100
- Model: Tuya ZY-M100
- Connectivity: Zigbee 3.0
- Power Supply: 5V1A
- Sensor: LeapMMW MR5G21 5.8GHz
- Detection Angle: 100°
- Detection Distance: 9m
- Price: Amazon | AliExpress
The Tuya ZY-M100 was among the first sensors that followed the initial release of the Aqara FP1, and surprisingly it did very well for it’s price tag at the time. Almost every cluster is exposed and configurable in Zigbee2MQTT, which enables the end user to tweak and adjust the ZY-M100, turning it into a reliable presence detector.
I have three ZY-M100 sensors in my home, still going strong and working as they should. These are one of the best Zigbee sensors on a budget you can add to your Smart Home.
Best Presence Sensor with Zone Support
WINNER: Aqara FP2
- Model: Aqara FP2 RTCZCGQ12LM
- Connectivity: Wi-Fi 2.4GHz / Bluetooth 4.2
- Power Supply: 5V1A
- Sensor: IWR6843 60GHz
- Detection Angle: 120°
- Detection Distance: 6-8m
- Availability: Amazon | AliExpress
Again, Aqara FP2 takes the cake in this category simply because of the simple way zones are defined in their app. Each zone can be defined as saved as a template, upon which you build your room by adding furniture, interference sources, set sensor positioning and define dead zones.
Once done, each and every zone you create is separately triggered by the sensor, meaning zones can be mutually exclusive or one zone can include another. Every zone is exposed as a separate entity in Home Assistant, with a separate state from other detection zones:
SECOND PICK: Aqara FP1
- Model: Aqara FP1
- Connectivity: Zigbee 3.0
- Power Supply: 5V1A
- Sensor: XENSIV™ BGT60TR13C 60GHz
- Detection Angle: 120°
- Detection Distance: 6m
- Price: AliExpress | AliExpress
Detection zones or regions took quite a bit of time to be developed in Zigbee2MQTT for the Aqara FP1. Eventually, the functionality was ported and now users are able to create up to 10 separate zones on a X & Y grid.
Zones can overlap, so automation flexibility is there for those who need it. Check out my guide for creating detection regions for the Aqara FP1. Please note, detection zones are only supported in Zigbee2MQTT.
THIRD PICK: Apollo MSR-1 and Everything Presence Lite
- Model: Apollo MSR-1
- Connectivity: Wi-Fi/Bluetooth
- Power Supply: 5V1A
- Sensor: Hi-Link LD2410b 24GHz
- Detection Angle: 60°
- Detection Distance: 6m
- Price: Apollo | OpenCircuit
- Model: Everything Presence Lite
- Connectivity: Wi-Fi 2.4GHz / Bluetooth 4.2
- Power Supply: 5V1A
- Sensor: Hi-Link LD2450 24GHz
- Other Compatible Sensors:
- DFRobot SEN0395, HiLink LD2410C, Seeed mmWave Sensors
- Price: Everything Presence Store
The Apollo MSR-1 and Everything Presence Lite come with their own utilization of detection zones. This involves defining X and Y coordinates for each zone, and creating a template occupancy entity to be individually triggered when presence is detected.
This feature is definitely suitable for more advanced users, but as a simpler alternative you can define zones as a simple distance from the sensor, like a linear line of cascading distances without X or Y coordinates. For easier visualization:
Put in simpler words, if you set Zone 1 to 50cm, it will detect presence from 0-50cm. Zone 2 extends from the end of Zone 1, so if you set Zone 2 to 300cm, it will detect presence at a distance from 50-300cm measured from the sensor.
Best Presence Sensor with Multi-person Detection
WINNER: Apollo MTR-1
- Model: Aqara MTR-1 Multi-target sensor
- Connectivity: Wi-Fi 2.4GHz / Bluetooth 4.2
- Power Supply: 5V1A
- Sensor: HLK-LD2450
- Detection Angle: 120°
- Detection Distance: 6-8m
- Availability: Apollo Webstore
The Apollo MTR-1 is a newly released presence sensor by the company, which relies on the HLK-LD2450 radar sensor for detecting up to 3 targets. It can track each target individually and record their coordinates in a X – Y grid. Further, it will record each target movement speed, direction, angle, distance and resolution.
If you are all for tinkering, the MTR-1 offers some incredibly versatile automation possibilities. Being an ESPHome device with native Home Assistant integration, the MTR-1 takes the top spot for the best presence sensor for tracking multiple targets.
SECOND PICK: Aqara FP2
- Model: Aqara FP2 RTCZCGQ12LM
- Connectivity: Wi-Fi 2.4GHz / Bluetooth 4.2
- Power Supply: 5V1A
- Sensor: IWR6843 60GHz
- Detection Angle: 120°
- Detection Distance: 6-8m
- Availability: Amazon | AliExpress
When it comes to real-time multi-target tracking or multi-person detection, there are only a couple of option available on the market. The sensor that does this best is the Aqara FP2 Presence Sensor, offering live data of targets moving in its vicinity. Here’s how this looks inside the Aqara app:
However, the downside of the FP2’s multi-person detection feature is that live data is not exposed to other smart home ecosystems, like Home Assistant. I don’t feel this is a dealbreaker, since automating based on live multi-person person is an overrated feature in my opinion. It’s better to use predefined detection zones instead – which are exposed as separate entities in Home Assistant.
Best Presence Sensor with Additional Features
WINNER (TIE): Apollo MSR-1 and MSR-2
- Model: Apollo MSR-1
- Connectivity: Wi-Fi/Bluetooth
- Power Supply: 5V1A
- Sensor: Hi-Link LD2410b 24GHz
- Detection Angle: 60°
- Detection Distance: 6m
- Price: Apollo | OpenCircuit
- Model: Apollo MSR-2
- Connectivity: Wi-Fi/Bluetooth
- Power Supply: 5V1A
- Sensor: Hi-Link LD2410b 24GHz
- Detection Angle: 60°
- Detection Distance: 6m
- Price: Apollo Webstore
When it comes to packing additional features in a presence sensor, nobody offers more than the Apollo MSR-1 and MSR-2. These tiny little radar sensors can be freely labelled as multi-sensors, with features like temperature, humidity, illuminance, UV, CO2 monitoring, air pressure, RGB Led and a Piezo buzzer for audible notifications.
The GPIO pinout is also exposed (3v, 5v, GND and I2C) on the back of the board, allowing you to solder in your own addition (e.g. external temperature sensor) and expand the functionality of the MSR-1/MSR-2 even further. The MSR-2 also has an additional connector for installing a backwards facing USB-C port, hiding the cable from sight.
Best Presence Sensor for Ceiling Installation
WINNER: Tuya MTG075-ZB-RL
- Model: Tuya MTG075-ZB-RL
- Connectivity: Zigbee 3.0
- Power Supply: 85-240VAC
- Sensor: S3KM111L 24GHz
- Detection Angle: 110°
- Detection Distance: 10m
- Price: AliExpress | AliExpress
The Tuya MTG075-ZB-RL is a device that can be mounted on a ceiling non-invasively, meaning you do not need to drill a hole to mount the sensor – yet it’s still thin enough to look good when installed on one.
On top of that, it’s the most flexible and configurable Zigbee presence sensor to date. The built-in relay is a nice addition for automatically toggling lights without any automation software. You can also install it on a wall, like I have, and it will work perfectly well.
SECOND PICK: Tuya ZY-M100-L
- Model: Tuya ZY-M100
- Connectivity: Zigbee 3.0
- Power Supply: 85-240VAC
- Sensor: LeapMMW MR5G21 5.8GHz
- Detection Angle: 100°
- Detection Distance: 9m
- Price: Amazon | AliExpress
Unlike the Tuya MTG075-ZB-RL, the Tuya ZY-M100-L presence sensor needs a hole in your ceiling in order to be installed. The devices clips onto your drywall sheet (or similar) like most recessed lights used in residential homes.
It’s powered by 85-240VAC, which means there is no need for an adapter and you can just connect it on L+N wires meant for your lights. It does a great job in detecting presence, although keep in mind that this sensor is known to get triggered by robot vacuums.
Presence Sensors to Avoid
Bellow this heading are all the mmWave presence sensors you need to avoid, for one reason or another. The devices in this list either have major drawbacks, unfixable flaws or there are simply better alternatives out there in the same price range.
Moes/Linptech Zigbee Presence Sensor ZSS-LP-HP02
The Moes/Linptech Presence Sensor model ZSS-LP-HP02 is probably one of the better sensors on this list in terms of static presence detection. It’s also very fast in the initial movement detection, has a great build quality and is highly configurable in Zigbee2MQTT.
Unfortunately, this Moes ZSS-LP-HP02 Presence Sensor spams your Zigbee network HARD. There is no way to reduce payload traffic, per entity or fully, since Tuya uses non-standard Zigbee implementation and data is pushed and not polled. There is also no option to turn of the onboard LED, which flashes constantly when presence is detected.
Deploying 3+ of these and your Zigbee mesh network will likely suffer or crash. It’s best to avoid it, since there are better alternatives.
Tuya Zigbee Presence Sensor with Siren ZG-205ZL
The Tuya Zigbee Presence Sensor with Siren model ZG-205ZL is another presence sensor you need to avoid. This device is plagued with false negative triggers, it doesn’t respect user set parameters like delays and sensitivity and is inaccurate in general. The included siren is a gimmick at best, producing lame quality in mono audio.
Tuya Zigbee Ceiling Presence Sensor LY-TAD-K616S
The Tuya Ceiling Presence Sensor LY-TAD-K616S is advertised as a radar presence sensor, but it’s actually a double PIR sensor in disguise. Some developers somewhere possibly though they could create a static human presence sensor by combining two PIR motion sensors and a luminance sensor, writing some clever magic code and make it work like they decided to advertise it. Totally incorrect and an unmitigated lie.
Tuya Zigbee Presence Sensor PS-HPS
The Tuya Zigbee Human Presence Sensor PS-HPS is probably the ugliest presence sensor you will find floating around. The case is being reused for something else by Tuya, maybe a ZigBee/BLE gateway. And even though it does a decent job at detecting static presence, it’s very slow at initial detection. There is no reason to consider this device, since there are far better alternatives out there.
Tuya Zigbee Presence Sensor TZ-GS-200
The Tuya Zigbee Presence Sensor TZ-GS-200 is another sensor you should skip for various reasons, the main one being Zigbee2MQTT and ZHA support is non existent right now. You could use an external converter, but as it turns out this device also floods your network really hard.
You missed LD2450 and LD2420 in the DIY Esphome section. LD2450 is better in multi-person detection. LD2420 has a better range and is cheaper compared to LD2410B/C.
Thanks Yousaf,
I didn’t miss them, I am simply sharing what I think is the best in my opinion.
The LD2450 doesn’t have official ESPHome support, which makes it harder to work with with.
The LD2420 is cheaper for a reason, it’s worse in detecting static human presence and breathing than the LD2410.
While it does hold some advantages over the LD2410 (range), it produces more false triggers than the LD2410.
This why I picked the LD2410 as the current top pick in the category.
I’ve added a short explanation about the other two.
I will happily change the ratings whenever I do some more tests.
Cheers
I am using all three ld2410B, LD2410C and LD2420, in my testing sitting in front of 2420 is the same/on par with ld210b/c. I use my only ld2420 in my office. LD2410B/C does allow finer granular control though.
LD2420 has the advantage of being 3.3V powered too.
I’m using all 5 LD2410c, it work perfectly to automate all light my home. It is best price.
i tested almost all the presence sensors from hilink and it’s completely different sensors with different purpose in mind, most of them left unfinished in development. only the ld2410, lad2410b and ld2410c works as a presence sensor should and it’s mostly because the others don’t focus in the “still motion” and have other fancy features like gesture detection, planned to be for toilets to flush and so on. not even the ld2410s is the same sensor and at unprecise as all the other models (which might not matter depending on where it should be placed and what it should be used for)
so:
ld2410 (first one with no bluetooth), ld2410b (same one WITH bluetooth, which makes it easier to check levels with their app) or ld2410c (the bigger version with breadboard friendly pins) are the good ones, none of the others are, -if you need precision and accurancy.
ld2450 i would rather call a target tracker, because thats all it’s good at, fun but not useable because it easily lose a target, it got better in the last firmware but still just a geeky toy, no pratical usage since you cannot count on it. – this sensor they actually worked much longer on that some of the others non-2410 models but i guess it will never be what we wish it could b. 🙁
Hi, I’m sadly missing the everything presence one kit, but I think these is based on you didn’t had a chance to get it and test it, correct? I would really like to see in the future an updated version when you had the possibility 🙂
Hi, I tested the EP1 extensively:
https://smarthomescene.com/reviews/everything-presence-one-vs-aqara-fp2-comparison-review/
Thank your for this very extensive overview, this really helps alot! I also came across these new Tuya presence sensors with integrated relays and was wondering if you also tested the recessed/ceiling mounted version. I always see it listed together with the one you tested (wall mounted) and was wondering whether they have identical specs?
Most likely yes, but I am not sure.
I haven’t tested it yet, so please don’t take my word for it.
The Tuya ZY-M100 also spams your network every second, regardless of whether it not there is presence detected. I have two different models and they both do it. Shame because they are otherwise a good sensor for the price.
I have the first 5.8 GHz version which doesn’t spam at all.
Can you check the logs if it’s only the illuminance value changing when a payload is pushed?
https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/issues/19045
I have bought ZY-M100-24G based on your recommendation and it spams the Zigbee network as well. This model is not what’s in the title of that Issue, but it is mentioned by some other people further down.
Even if it is sending luminance updates, the fact that it is doing so every second can bring down the network if you have enough of them.
Where’s the EP Lite in this roundup?
If you actually bothered to read the article, you would know it’s ranked as no.1 for Home Assistant.
re: “If you actually bothered to read the article, you would know it’s ranked as no.1 for Home Assistant.”
no you ranked it “best overall” and longer down you write the MSR-1 is the best for home assistant, easy to get confused with which one you would prefer.. :-p
and i can only agree if it’s the MSR-1 from apollo, great selection of sensors on a very well designed pcb, and for the same pricerange as the others, should be the winner in all ways 😉
I’m still somewhat surprised every time I see the Aqara at the top of any list. I placed that thing on each wall of my living room at different heights, reset it multiple times, updated the firmware and after an evening could not even get the initial setup completed. At any distance it stopped detecting anything on it’s left side. The ghosting was horrible even when aimed at bare walls. In fact it picked up ghost motion more reliably than it picked up me dancing around the room like a fool. there seems to be a parity of people who love it and think it works perfectly and people who can’t even get past step one. Knowing that a large portion of people have horrible experiences with that device would automatically take it off of my list even if I had had a positive experience.
Thanks to your recommendation I’ve been running few Tuya ZY-M100 sensors for about a year and they’ve been top-notch! Insanely fast and the reset time is great. I replaced few Aqara motion sensors with these.
But now I’m spoiled and I want to add some new generation Tuya sensors. Having the continuous (static) presence option is nice, for those tricky areas and corners that require fine tuning.
Do you mind me asking a little more about your network (how many devices overall, how many of these ZY-M100 etc.)?
Sorry to pry, but I also bought some, based on these recommendations. Then I noticed they were spamming the Zigbee network. Some further research confirmed this (see my comment above). My understanding at the time was that more than a couple of them might bring the whole Zigbee network down. So I put them in a drawer and never looked back.
But maybe I over-reacted. Or maybe I should just get them out and give them another try…
Great Overview!
From what I understand of their documentation, the msr1 „zones“ are defined only by distance, while Aqara, ep lite and Screek 2A can measure in x-y coordinates. Is this correct?
I’d like to define zones, such as „couch“, etc.
Yes, you are correct.
Only the FP2 can do zones like you are explaining.
As always, thanks for the great recommendations!
However, I don’t think the Sonoff SNZB-06P makes a good recommendation, IF we’re using Home Assistant and intend to use the presence and illuminance readings in an automation, e.g. turn on the lights when there is presence and its dim.
In a scenario where the last known illuminance reading is ‘bright’, the automation above may not work due to a race condition between presence turning occupied and illuminance going from bright to dim, as the Sonoff updates illuminance only when there is presence. Seems like a drawback to not flooding the zigbee network with constant illuminance updates. Partly why the Linptech/Moes performs so well, but floods the zigbee network as you mentioned.
Hoping you’ll add a disclaimer to recommending the Sonoff, so that people know what they are getting into.
I have been wondering about this ‘illuminance race condition’ problem as well, thanks for your comment. My understanding is that there are a few dedicated Zigbee light sensors, that send the illuminance data regardless of motion or not, maybe I will try some of those.
I have also been on a quest to find a good mmWave sensor that doesn’t require an app, nor spam the network.
Maybe I should DIY both of the above together with ESPHome and some of the recommended bare sensors. It certainly seems much cheaper. And I could control the transmission chattiness.
I have built out a primarily Zigbee network, so I suppose I could afford a few Wi-Fi based devices. For the kind of presence detection that mmWave devices are used for (and light readings on a long interval), it wouldn’t even matter if they didn’t react right away (I have Zigbee PIR for that).
Did I just convince myself? Maybe… lol